"bshappy" (bshappy)
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"bshappy" (bshappy)
12/06/2015 at 20:23 • Filed to: None | 3
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Opponauts, my dream garage will be going out to bid soon so it’s time to start planning the details. Due to space constraints the footprint is pretty much set. There is 12’ clear from slab to ceiling so I should have room for a 4 post lift (or two). We will bring in 220 power so if/ when I get a welder I won’t be limited.
My goal is to plan where everything will go so I can place things accordingly (lights/ outlets/ plumbing, etc), and I need the help of infinite wisdom of oppo.
What are some things you wish your garage had when you built it? So far I’ve come up with the following items:
-Insulated Doors
-Floor Drains
- 1 or 2 steel beams for hoisting
-Power outlets around 50” high
-Slat wall over sink with paper towel and soap holders
-Commercial paper towel dispenser
-Photograph and map out location of utilities before hanging drywall (for future reference)
-Nailing protection plates on each stud where wire passes through
-Multiple light zones
-Ceiling fans mounted to ceiling in rear
-100% solid epoxy floor
What am I forgetting oppo?
TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:27 |
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more vehicles in it. or stacks of money to buy vehicles
BringBackTheCommodore
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:30 |
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Sounds like a pretty comprehensive list. The only additions I can think of are: good ventilation for exhausting fumes (presumably the ceiling fans would help with that), good heating for the garage, a small booth for painting, and an oven for high-temp drying of paint and/or parts.
The Opponaut formerly known as MattP123
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:33 |
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A pit or a lift.
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:34 |
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I wish our four car garage actually had room for four cars.
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:35 |
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Built in floor lifts. Lifts when you want them, openness whe you don’t
fhrblig
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:37 |
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This is going to sound crass, but a urinal. If I’m working on something I tend not to want to leave it, to the point where my back teeth are floating.
For Sweden
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:39 |
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I wish it existed
Dusty Ventures
> fhrblig
12/06/2015 at 20:39 |
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I’d go full toilet. If I don’t want to have to leave to pee, I definitely don’t want to have to leave to poop
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For Sweden
> fhrblig
12/06/2015 at 20:40 |
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Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:41 |
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I wish I had a garage! Had to bum space from the parents for the NB over the winter.
If I did have a garage, I’d like 3 or even 4 cars to fit inside of it so I could even keep the DDs out of the snow. A lift in 1 or 2 of the spots would be ideal. A ton of storage along the back with a work bench (like your schematic), and a couple of rolling toolboxes. Don’t forget somewhere to store something like 12-16 extra tires!
Your list looks good to keep handy when I attempt to convert my 10x20 shed next year into a glorified Miata holder.
McMike
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:41 |
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http://pix-hd.com/cool+garage+fr…
I don’t know who these people are, but mine is on the bottom.
Isn’t that weird?
Sam
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:42 |
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Recommendation - 2 post lift. If you go four post, you still have to use a jack and jack stands to do wheels, suspension, and brakes.
pjhusa
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:43 |
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A two-car garage. The ML has to suffer in the cold due to my single-car garage.
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fhrblig
> Dusty Ventures
12/06/2015 at 20:44 |
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Depends on the available space, I guess. I think a urinal would be adequate. Besides, if you have your garage door open, it’s easier to disguise what you’re doing at a urinal than pants down on the toilet.
Urambo Tauro
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:45 |
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A good air compressor setup.
Due to limited floor space, consider elevating it in a corner somewhere. If you can insulate a box around it, it will help with the noise.
Birddog
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:47 |
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I’m beyond garages. I need a Pole Barn with water and HVAC.
If you’re going to dream dream big!
ly2v8-Brian
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:47 |
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Insulation and a beer fridge.
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Birddog
> fhrblig
12/06/2015 at 20:49 |
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The next house I build will have a Urinal in at least one bathroom! A funnel and a piece of hose works in the garage.
E92M3
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:49 |
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Don’t forget a utility sink. Those come in so handy.
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bshappy
> fhrblig
12/06/2015 at 20:52 |
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There will be a floor above this with a bathroom. A urinal would be AWESOME!
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bshappy
> TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
12/06/2015 at 20:53 |
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That is this plan. I already have 3 of the 4 possible spaces taken up in my dreams.
-FJ40 Land Crusier
-Datsun 240z
-930 911 Targa
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Urambo Tauro
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:55 |
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Parts washers are nice to have. The one in my garage is one of the smaller ones that keeps the solvent in the tub. So instead of having an external drum, there’s room for storage underneath.
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bshappy
> Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]
12/06/2015 at 20:55 |
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Vintage cars will be going inside so DDs will still have to pull snow duty.
I’ll throw in a couple more tire racks.
Clown Shoe Pilot
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:55 |
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I’m planning on starting construction of a 24x30 shop in the spring. My shop features will include:
12 foot ceiling
epoxy floor laid by the same guys that do the floors at COTA before F1 every year
2 post lift w/ underground hydraulic lines (no obstruction top or bottom)
1 ton manual bridge crane
ridiculous amounts of lighting
compressed air
120VAC outlets every 6 feet
several 240VAC outlets for welders, plasma cutter, etc
welding fume exhaust
insulated to hell
The new shop will hold my big toolbox, welding equipment (MIG, TIG, and O/A), welding table, drill press, pedestal grinder, Mr. Suregrip (my ginormous vise), tire rack, and a big ass steel and butcher block work table that I haven’t yet built. It will also have a parking spot for my lawn tractor. I will park the M Coupe in there, and my trailer will live up next to the ceiling atop the lift.
crowmolly
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:55 |
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2 post for work, 4 post for storage.
You should also figure out where you will put a large air compressor and how you will pipe an air system.
TheJWT
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:56 |
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Something which connected it to my house.
Sadly, I don’t know of such an invention.
norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:56 |
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Existing
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bshappy
> BringBackTheCommodore
12/06/2015 at 20:57 |
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Ventilation is a great point. Some kind of exhaust fan would probably be smart to have even with ceiling fans.
I dont think theres space for a dedicated painting area. I’d likely just drop cloth out a temporary booth.
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bshappy
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
12/06/2015 at 20:58 |
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I thought about that but I think the utility of a 4 post lift being able to store an extra car is too great to pass up. Plus $$$$$
El Rivinado
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 20:59 |
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enough length to fit in 18' or longer cars inside.
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bshappy
> McMike
12/06/2015 at 21:01 |
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Beer fridge is a must. In fact, it should have been the first thing on my list. Thanks for the tip!
fairlady78
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 21:06 |
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Don’t bother with soap holders. Get one of these: http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail…
Seriously, after 6 years working in a machine shop and on cars at home, no soap - Gojo, Lava, Octagon, anything - will clean your hands like Boraxo.
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bshappy
> Urambo Tauro
12/06/2015 at 21:06 |
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Parts washer is a good idea. I think I’d be able to find a place for it after the garage is built.
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bshappy
> Urambo Tauro
12/06/2015 at 21:07 |
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This is a really good idea. Thanks for the tip.
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bshappy
> crowmolly
12/06/2015 at 21:07 |
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I would love a 2 post but I can’t pass up that extra parking space.
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bshappy
> ly2v8-Brian
12/06/2015 at 21:08 |
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It will be well insulated. Beer fridge is a must have.
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bshappy
> Birddog
12/06/2015 at 21:08 |
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I know the feeling. Due to the draconian nature of the local building code I’m limited to 600sf.
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bshappy
> TheJWT
12/06/2015 at 21:09 |
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Feel free to come over any time!
Tire Rhea
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 21:09 |
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I’m curious what the best floor covering is for a garage that will see some occasional wrenching. Is it epoxy or ceramic tile or something else?
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bshappy
> El Rivinado
12/06/2015 at 21:10 |
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Unfortunately is this a good as its going to get. Whoever wrote the local building codes didn’t think about land yachts.
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bshappy
> Clown Shoe Pilot
12/06/2015 at 21:15 |
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That sounds like a serious shop!
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Birddog
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 21:15 |
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600 sqft is a good size shop!
I just always want more.
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bshappy
> E92M3
12/06/2015 at 21:16 |
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Slop sink is a must.
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TheD0k_2many toys 2little time
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 21:19 |
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in my parents barn i have my Miata (winter storage from MI winter) my can am ds650 atv. Currently the dd’s are my 99 7.3 powerstroke and ford escort winter beater. And down the line i have a 5.3l ls truck motor getting a performance rebuild and will be dropped in whatever shell i find
MM54
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 21:41 |
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I don’t even own space for it yet, but my garage is slowly planned. Highlights (you haven’t already mentioned) include:
Compressed air drops, hard lines, at least one on each wall - keeps from having to drag hoses everywhere.
At least one indoor hose spigot, near the door to rinse the mess out (this is why the sealed concrete is a very good idea)
A couple of the outlets should be on their own breaker, some stuff pulls close to 15A so why not. Same deal with 220 stuff.
In the center of the room put a 30A twist-lock 120 outlet on the ceiling so you can bring down a drop to a normal 4-gang box when needed - again cuts down on dragging cords everywhere.
If I think of anything else, I’ll add it on.
Big Bubba Ray
> fhrblig
12/06/2015 at 21:43 |
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I just swing open my garage door and take a leak when need be. I can’t afford to waste time/concentration when doing a valve adjustment!
boxrocket
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 21:44 |
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My list largely mirrors yours: More space, two four-post lifts with a Hunter EagleEye alignment system, more and better lighting, sealed non-slip floor, electrical and pneumatic outlets galore with retractable reels, and exchange my 80”-tall main tool chest with a longer waist- or counter-height one, as I want more horizontal space and am tired of reaching up to get tools, or getting off my rolling chair to get smaller tools (which go in the smaller drawers in the second tier). Also a central vacuum system.
ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 21:51 |
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Seven Lamborghinis.
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fhrblig
> Big Bubba Ray
12/06/2015 at 22:02 |
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Yeah, but I don’t want to scare away the neighbors.
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Clown Shoe Pilot
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 22:07 |
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I’ve decided to Not Fuck Around™.
Also, I noticed your plan drawing had two single width garage doors. Having owned both dual single width and double width doors, I strongly prefer the one big door.
Also, you may wish to cover one wall in melamine - nothing like having a giant whiteboard.
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bshappy
> MM54
12/06/2015 at 22:10 |
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Great suggestions. Thank you!
XJDano
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 22:25 |
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Copper or steel pipes along top for air lines, drop down with fittings for hoses, 2 on each wall & a retractable hose in the middle.
Run some internet wires out to garage so you not only have option of a direct line, but might as well add its own wireless router.
Depending on your climate, a ceiling mounted heater.
Svart Smart, traded in his Smart
> For Sweden
12/06/2015 at 22:29 |
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Ditto.
CCC (formerly CyclistCarCoexist)
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 23:16 |
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Snap On Tool Cabinete
Every Snap On Tool available on the open market
Park Tools Bike Stand
Park Tools Tools
Hideaway Bar that can retract into the ground, while making it into a burning pile of rags (also works as stove)
Carbon Fiber Counter
Carbon fiber floor over an exoxy Clearcoat
Steam Cleaner for work clothes
Sexy couch
Matthew Keyser
> bshappy
12/06/2015 at 23:22 |
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In a hypothetical scenario with hypothetical dollars, a hydrolic lift would sit firmly at the top of my list.
I’m not sure exactly what you’re planning on doing in your garage, but clearly from a working on cars standpoint:
If you’re not going to have some way to keep it heated, even a kerosene or space heater for those December days when a vacuum line comes disconnected is better than nothing.
Having cold beverages readily available is also very handy in summer.
I don’t know about you but music is a must when I’m working so a music system of sorts is always good to have around.
Plenty of places for trash.
Maybe a gun range out back to blow off some steam when something isn't going the way it should?
I’ve just from inside from a long day of wrenching so I have that on my mind trying to come up with suggestions. Best of luck with the garage as it progresses into completion, looks like you’re on the right track to have a great place to work
Nick Has an Exocet
> bshappy
12/07/2015 at 00:13 |
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Space for 4 cars would be groovy. Mine barely fits one and it’s a weird shape because they put an extra bathroom in during a remodel and it extends into the garage.
C9200
> bshappy
12/07/2015 at 00:19 |
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Walls would be nice ... And not to be greedy, but maybe a roof too
RallyWrench
> bshappy
12/07/2015 at 00:44 |
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I wish it had me in it, making progress on my projects.
Axial
> bshappy
12/07/2015 at 02:13 |
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I wish my garage had space for my car...
Serious.
Just1BeforeIDie
> bshappy
12/07/2015 at 10:07 |
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A urinal.
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> bshappy
12/07/2015 at 14:02 |
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How long are your cars and how much space will there really be between the front of the cars and the storage unit?
Where does the beer fridge go?
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bshappy
> davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
12/07/2015 at 15:32 |
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An FJ40 (which I hope will be joining the fleet soon) is ~12.5’ long and the cars shown are ~14 so as long as I don’t pick up a Lincoln Continental I should be ok.
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gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> bshappy
12/08/2015 at 07:45 |
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My answer was in response to the the “dream garage” if $$$ is no issue. In reality, a 4 post is much better due to cost reduction and storage.
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gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> McMike
12/08/2015 at 07:46 |
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this would just lead me to drinking all the time.
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McMike
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
12/08/2015 at 07:51 |
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Honey, you’ve been the the garage for hours.
I know.
You don’t even have a project car.
I know.
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gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> McMike
12/08/2015 at 22:31 |
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“Is this a drinking garage with a car problem..... or a car garage with a drinking problem?”
Both would be correct.
SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
> bshappy
11/07/2016 at 12:26 |
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A Lotus 79.